July 24


Goals Worth Pursuing vs. Endlessly Grasping for More

We all want to be successful. Whether it means becoming a millionaire, making enough money to travel the world, gaining recognition, popularity or making a difference in the lives of others... the entrepreneurial-mind usually wants more. We like to think of success as a shiny place with cherries on the top where only great things happen.

Yet, the news is full of highly successful celebrities who somehow end up taking their own lives. Money and fame just aren't enough to make them stay... 

But what should you do if you're the type of person that wants success and wealth? Should you drop it all and live as a monk? How can you hustle and build your empire without destroying yourself?

Today we're dealing with a heavier topic, inspired by an earlier episode of The Fizzle Show podcast: managing your mental health as an entrepreneur.

We're talking about the types of challenges you're inevitably going to face, and how to tell the hard times apart from each other – the ones that are normal and the ones that you need to do something about. As always, we're not just telling you what to do, but how we think you might go about doing it. 

Please note: while this episode is intended to help you, it is in no way a substitute for professional help. If you are in distress, please reach out to a healthcare professional.

Thanks to The Fizzle Show for bringing the topic up and allowing people to realize they're not alone with their internal battles. 

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Episode Transcript

What You'll Discover in this Episode:

  • Can money buy you happiness? Or will it make you more unhappy? The answer to this well-known question can't be a simple yes or no. 
  • Should you stop wanting to be successful? What's the solution if you still want what success has to offer, without falling into depression?
  • External and internal hard times: you don't always have to face the challenges. How to know which are the problems you should accept and which are the ones you shouldn't? How to tell apart 'reasonable' problems from the ones that are irrational?
  • When your mind won't shut up: Many of your problems are created by you, and if you're not careful, you can easily turn into your worst enemy. We're giving you advice on what you can do to raise your self-awareness and learn how not to give in to harmful thoughts and feelings.
  • It's not about the goal, it's about the journey. Another cliché we hear all the time, but do we really understand it? How to learn to enjoy the journey and know if your journey is worth it, even when you're not enjoying the ride at the moment? 
  • How doing meaningful work can keep your mind sane more than watching Netflix? 
  • We're answering some of our listeners' questions at the end of the podcast about procrastination, the customer first approach and taxes. 


Is Your Journey Worth Having?

Focusing on the journey doesn't mean living as if there was no tomorrow. You don't have to enjoy every second of your journey for it to be the right path for you. Ask yourself: is your journey worth having despite all the challenges and hard times you're facing? 

What's the hardest part for you in being an entrepreneur?

Let us know in the comments below!

As always, we want your feedback, questions, tips and stories. You can leave them in the comments section down below or leave us a voice message by hitting the "Start recording" button below:

See you soon with another episode!

About  Alexandra Kozma

Alexandra is a traveling marketer. When she is not editing podcast episodes or writing blog posts, she's out there exploring a new city. She's the creator of the Morning Mindset daily mindfulness journal.

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  • As a spiritual author who blends psychology and spiritual principles together, I have to say this podcast was very insightful.

    I have also dealt with depression and anxiety since birth, which I now manage with natural supplements, so I know what it is to struggle with those thoughts that go from “this is challenging” to the thoughts that are more centered on one’s negative self-worth.

    Given my experience with both depression + anxiety and personal transformation via spiritual psychology, I can say the advice Shane gives here is quite sound.

    The practice of journaling is truly an excellent way to become mindful of your thoughts, especially the ones we try very hard to keep from ourselves.

    The one thing I would add about the practice of journaling is to be willing to unload whatever is really going on inside you. Not only is this a great way of venting, it can give you great insight into some of the crazy thoughts you think about yourself… to the point where you can gain a bit of “outside perspective” and even be able to say, “well, that’s just silly of me to be thinking that way” (because most of the time, our self-critical thoughts are either overly exaggerated or simply not true).

    For me meditation is challenging, but this form of journaling allows me to achieve the same mindfulness results.

    Thank you, Shane, for bringing up this topic. Mental health is obviously something I’m an advocate for, and I encourage everyone who needs help to receive help.


    • Thank you for your comment, Danielle!

      I agree with what you wrote about journaling. Years ago, when I first started this kind of introspective writing, I first had to practice to be totally honest with myself. I figured that if I can’t even be unfiltered when I’m writing just for myself, what’s the point? And like you say, when we write completely unfiltered, it can lay bare some of the craziness that is going on in our minds every day.


      • Yes, you’re right. Total honesty with oneself can definitely be challenging at first. I had the same experience when I started this practice too. But when we stick with it, the results can really spur some life changing breakthroughs.

        Btw… I’m a ThriveThemes member and using your plugins to redo my author website. I’m very much looking forward to going live with the new conversion focused design. So thank you for creating those products as well.

  • Hi Shane, I really admire what you are doing in ActiveGrowth and Thrive. I heard the voicemail of the guy saying how you have touched his life in many ways, and I can say the same. You are my hero because not only do I benefit from the products you create and provide, but also your humility and commitment to being a good guy stands out.

    I love how you aren’t telling us how awesome you are; rather, you just do what you do and the work speaks for itself. What you are doing is exactly what I hope to do one day with my business. In that way, you are my role model.

    Also, I heard you talk about how you keep ActiveGrowth alive even when on paper, it seemingly makes no business sense. However, when you recognize the value you provide to people that recognize the good you’re doing, you feel like it matters enough to keep it going. I have been in that exact same situation, so I can relate to what you’re saying. That is reason I was inspired to write this comment . . . I wanted to come out and tell you that I’m another fan of yours and I respect and admire what you are doing.

    Thank you Shane, you are awesome!



    • Thank you very much, Eddie! I appreciate your kind comment. I’m very grateful to know that some of what I do makes a difference. :)


  • Hi Shane,

    Your “spur of the minute” episode about – the dark side of the mind – was well received by this listener. And, although I have some thoughts directly on that topic; I’ll defer those for now to get to another important matter.

    Your comments about why you produce the ActiveGrowth site and podcast do require (yes, “require”) a bit of feedback. I’m certainly glad that your “inner drive” was sufficient to start ActiveGrowth and bring it to this point. By “this point”, I mean that for me; it is a must have, must hear, must know source of learning.

    From my experience, the emotional nourishment of knowing that my efforts are appreciated is quite important but it’s really just part of the picture. Getting paid is the other part. Or you could look at it this way; receiving payment is just another form to express the emotional appreciation from the audience. BUT, with payment, you get the emotion AND a cup of coffee, a meal, an apartment, and a retirement account. Isn’t that great!

    I for one strongly suggest you offer a “premium” version of ActiveGrowth. Just provide the most minor step-up in value as a reason (an excuse really) for me and others to make a payment. That way, those new to AG or without funds can get the valuable content and those of us who like to foster and support great works can do so.

    And before you have that thought that says, I just created more work for you by suggesting you offer a “little more value”; let me give you an example of what I’m thinking. How about you do a one camera video recording while you’re doing the podcast recording. No video editing needed! It would be a kind of “behind the scenes” thing. People (me) love that kind of thing. I’d kick in $10 a month for that. How does that sound, Shane?


    • Thank you for your comment and offer for support, Randal! It’s very generous of you to offer it and to suggest that I could charge or use the patron model for the podcast.

      I can’t get over the feeling that I ought not to because I don’t need to. I own a healthy business and I’m financially well off. Somehow, I’m comfortable selling products and getting paid for that, but I’m much less comfortable with the idea of getting paid for just creating content. Not sure why. It’s a limiting belief of some kind.


      • Let’s see now; (a) self limiting belief – sounds like another podcast topic; (b) I’ll bet there’s a worthy charity that would be happy to help with that little problem of bringing in excess income; (c) and lastly, ask this audience what is their single biggest business problem and apply those funds to have someone (not you, you’re busy enough :-) develop a solution. Bye for now.

  • Hi there mentor!

    One more piece of gold. This is my first comment after listened/watched probably more than 50h or your stuff, between Thrive Themes and Active Growth (shame on me).

    Your content is great because you clearly have walked the walk, so you address exactly the struggles we feel now and then (not only in this audio, but in all of them). I also like that you made the audios available to download, so we can listen to them while doing other stuff (like me having lunch, driving or walking).

    As a producer, I know this potcast takes an incredible, unbelievable, unpredictable LOOOOTTTT of time and energy from you… It is really a gift to us that somebody like you have the will to share your knowledge here. I don’t know your exact goals with this amazing philanthropy (you talked about goals in the beginning of the audio), but I hope you state them so that despite our own limitations we all can help you achieve them in exchange for all the good you put forward here.

    • It is awesome to have you and your team, as entrepreneur special ops, sharing what happen and what to do, because most of what is the web is all about selling and ratings – although this people are special ops too, their teachings are mostly about inexistent wonderlands that make people feel good for the moment, but are different from what happens in the trenches of successful entrepreneurship and a fulfilled life. Thanks to you, Alexandra and Hanne!


    • Thank you very much for your comment, Josué!

      It really means a lot to me to hear from you and to know that our work has brought some value.


  • Even in full retirement mode, I enjoy Shane’s inputs via Active Growth and the Thrive Products. This podcast and the resources are very important. I have failed to implement (since 2004) some of the simple things he is mentioning in this post — even with apps such as Calm, Tactical Breather, and even a module to keep me distracted. Now is the time to regain some of my introspection to help me really enjoy retirement. Thanks.


    • Thank you for your comment, Nate! What you’re describing here is no small matter. It’s the lifelong challenge of finding your way back to the present moment and of finding calm amidst the storm.

      The way you write seems like you feel that “by now I should have figured this out”, but I think that’s not the case at all.


  • Fantastic golden nuggets here. Thanks Shane.


  • anka.ledenko says:

    Hi, Shane !
    I have a very specific legal tip for your French followers (living and having their business in France).

    It concerns the problems we have here with the “RSI” (Régime Social des Indépendants”) -> Frenchies will understand ;)

    In order to avoid this (horrible) RSI,
    solopreneurs must renounce the “easy and free” AUTO-ENTREPRENEUR status;
    entrepreneurs with several employees must leave (until 2020) the “SARL” status;
    it is the same for “professions libérales”.

    They have to choose instead the “SAS” (Société par Actons Simplifiées”) status. And for ONE business-owner, the status is called “SASU” (“Soc. par Actions Simpl. pour partenaire UNIQUE”).

    Thus those entrepreneurs will depend on “le Régime Général de la Sécurité Sociale”, and be safe again …!

    I propose to your followers who are interested to contact me through a MP on my FB page (my “profile” photo represents my white husky, “DERSOU”).

    I’ll give them all the details and send them (completely freely) all the documentation = des statuts juridiquement valides et immédiatement applicables).

    Once again, it is completely free and I’ll be happy to help … in an “Open Source” mindset or an “ActiveGrowth” spirit ! :-)


  • Thanks for another great podcast. It really helps. Let me use my bento box to comment about two topics. Happiness and entrepreneurship. About happiness, to simplify I think that it is more related with following some simple rules in life. For me, the top christian basic laws work fine. And that there is misconception that it is related with the amount of money. This misconception I think that it is responsible of how unfortunately we are overconsuming the environment. Of course, being happy does not mean being successful or fully realizing yourself. About entrepreneurship, I started seven years ago, thinking that it was going to be easy. It is being 10x more difficult than I expected. I had completely no formation on entrepreneurship, even when I had a degree in Economics. At the same time I have felt so much engaged to it as a hunter looking for its prey, and not caring for anything else. Well, something not really healthy for mind neither for personal live. Anycase, no regrets. And this art of not getting in and out, and distancing, can be a good skill to have.


    • Thank you for sharing your thoughts, Raul!

      For sure in our culture, there’s an overemphasis on money and that skews us in a direction that isn’t ideal. For me, a combination between making money, doing something valuable and being engaged in what I’m doing is the best. And that also means I’m willing to make less money if I get to do something more meaningful or more engaging.


  • Yes, you’re right. Total honesty with oneself can definitely be challenging at first. I had the same experience when I started this practice too. But when we stick with it, the results can really spur some life changing breakthroughs.

    Btw… I’m a ThriveThemes member and using your plugins to redo my author website. I’m very much looking forward to going live with the new conversion focused design. So thank you for creating those products as well.


  • anka.ledenko says:

    Hi Shane !
    You can delete my comment about Sébastien Night : it was a joke .
    It would be terrible for me if Randal took it seriously.
    I apologize.


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